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PostSubject: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeMon May 04, 2009 1:52 pm

I have been studying numerology for the last 3 months.

Well my ex-boyfriend hangs out with all these goodlooking, pouplar, wealthy, intelligent, hard working, sefless pepole... well I was alone with no friends or people to hang out with. I made him angry and then he blocked my number. I was in deep despair.

I called my friend whose a psychic and she said I could visit her house 2 days later.

The next day, I was at the movie theatre and this is the date that was printed on my movie ticket (05/2/19)

05/2/19 and I thought if this is the "hypothetical date" that is mentioned on my ticket, then what would the next day be?

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19+1 = 20, 5/2/20

then I reversed the numbers : 20, 2, 5

20 =hearing, 2= procreation, 5=power. IN other words my friend Carrie who is doing a tarot reading for me, would cause me to "hear" that this "relatioship" can be "renewed"

Then I took the numbers again 2025 and divided it by 25 to get 41

41 = shame, and 25 = isolation

Shame & Isolation = Hearing that Procreation has Power and those numbers came to me when I was not looking for them...

The next day Carrie cancelled on me and I never went to her house that day.

Do you think this means that I still have a chance with my ex-boyfriend?
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeTue May 05, 2009 7:10 pm

My dear, for starters, I still don't understand how the heck you are getting all those meanings for each number. Numerology is 1-9 and 11 and 22. That's it. The fact that you keep pushing those numbers that way, I seriously think you keep trying to get them to say the outcome you want. I don't feel it will work out and I don't feel you have a chance with him. I honestly think that maybe you should try to move on and if you are really wanting to learn how to use numerology, get the help, don't just go by all these numbers and how you are getting them. Honestly those numbers and meanings aren't really meaning anything. To be honest, I really think you should just give up on it or find the proper help for learning it.
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeTue May 05, 2009 9:02 pm

I am using christian numerology which has a unique meaning for each of the first 140 numbers without repetition .
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeTue May 05, 2009 9:17 pm

According to the sites i have found there are only 40 lineal numerical meanings, with the numbers 42, 44, 45, 50, 51, 60, 66, 70, 100, 119, 120, 144, 200, 400, 600, 666, 777, 888, 1000, 4000, 6000, 7000, and 144,000 added on. My source was http://www.christian-resources-today.com/biblical-meaning-of-numbers.html

here are the meanings I found for the mentioned numbers

20 - Christian Numerology meaning deals with expectancy of a great magnitude

2 - Biblical Meaning of Number is separation, divided or division. By it being the first number that can be divided, it is often look at as the fundamental number for division. This number is attached to the term Revelation as well. It has also been used when referring to discord and even war. Ruin and death is also within this number baggage.


5 - Biblical Meaning of Number is grace and redemption - God's grace or life that's moved by the spirit. This number has also been used to describe freedom, completeness.

41- Having no meaning


25 - Christian Numerology meaning deals with expectancy of receiving divine grace and redemption from the almighty God
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeTue May 05, 2009 9:44 pm

42 = sharing
44 = anticipation
45 = strength
50 = grace
51 = dedication
60 = socialisation
66 = santification through knowledge or "leave"

I didn't get my information from a book or an internet source, I got all of my answers by studying the bible and asking the Higher Powers for guidance because as far as I know, not a single website on numerology is accurate... These numbers are intuitively assigned by feeling, and expressing the natural propensities of a centrifugal spiritual configuration of varied energy sources... Any basis of numerology that is derived from wordly socially contextualized, temporal principles is a distortion of thsi natural configuration that every individual is intuitively born with and hence carries a form of psychological constrainment in it's apprehension...
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeTue May 05, 2009 9:52 pm

So basically, you made it up to suit what you want it to say, as each interpretation of the bible(or any holy work for that matter) is different and personal. If you choose to use your own system, how are the rest of us supposed to know what your interpretations mean?
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeTue May 05, 2009 10:01 pm

There are different interpretations but the person who writes that particular chapter in the book has one individual interpretation in mind, and the quality of the reader's interpretation is based on whether or not, their interpretation coincides with the type of interpretation the reader had in mind when he wrote the book... If the reader is not happy with this type of symbiotic relatinship, he can discard the book and find something elsed to read. It is very rarely that you can learn more from reading a book than the original author intended for you to learn.
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeTue May 05, 2009 10:03 pm

if that was true, there would only be one Christian religion, not the several different ones that have been around for several hundred years now
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeTue May 05, 2009 10:12 pm

The bible says no prophet can die outside of jerusalem and jerusalem in the metaphorical sense is any society or association of people or psychological frame of reference that captilises on the acquisition of religion....

The bible says that those who are truly following god will be hated, they will be persecuted by peope who claim to be chrisitan, they will be kicked out of the the churches and the christian fellowships, they will be insulted, and they will the object of ridicule and slander. The bible says there will come a time any insincere believer in the church who kills the follower of Jesus, will think he is doing the will of God. Hence, all real christians are social outcasts in the "christian" church.
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeTue May 05, 2009 10:26 pm

that in no way relates to what I stated, not in the least in fact. Since you did not get it the first time I will break it down a little more. If there was only one possible interpretation then there would only be one church, the one who conducts service in Hebrew, witch eliminates Christianity all together, as the only church that continues a Hebrew service is the orthodox Jewish.

As Dracos asked in your other thread where it was stated that no one had any clue as to what you are talking about, Which verson of the bible and exactly which verses are you quoiting from? How much of the bible have you subjected to this practice?

and now I shall add my own, What language are you reading your bible in? How old is the bible you are using? Have you tried to prove your system in a different language or version?
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 8:24 am

I will go back to your original post on this string. If your ticket stub was actually dated 5/2/19, I would suggest you find another theater, this one is inept at even the simplest things like assuring correct dates... unless they are working ten years in the future.

When one is dealig with wishful thinking, one can make anything portend the fulfillment of the wish. The wish becomes paramount in the thinking and all other things of importance pale and fade. I suggest you do some grounding work.
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 8:27 am

It does relate to what you just said, but you weren't listening or payinhg attention... You said that if what I say is correct, then there would only be one church, there is SUPPOSED to be only one church, but people pervert the will of God or the orignal intention of the scriptural passages to match their own evil desires and inclinations and it is this perversion that results in the great divides in the church that you see today... as I already mentioned the bible says that many are called but few are chosen...

The bible can be understood in any language and it was intended to be understood in every language, much of what is written in the bible is not even find in the jewish torah... CHristianity is a unique religion, different from judaism.

I use all versions of the bible, sometines the new revised american standard version, sometimes the new international version, and sometimes other versions. I get the numerological values by the method that I already described, and then I use those numbers to intepret the passages in the bible, and my study of the bible verifies that my knowledge of numerology is correct.

I created 4 overlapping diagrams by comparing the genealogy of Jesus in mathew, luke, and 1 Chornicles and assigning numerological values to each character in the geneaology in chronological order, and also mapping the 12 tribes of isreal.

The twelve tribes of isreal arranged in one order, (It's numerological value + 1) results in the 12 hours of the day and the unique placement of the 12 tribes is mentioned I believe in either deutoronomy or numbers.

The 12 months of the year, are mentioned in another part of the bible, and I took a circle and mapped it out making 30 degrees for each hour, to get the 12 months.

Then I took the same circle of 30 degrees per hour, and divided each hour again into 3 parts to get 36 generations that preceded Jesus birth on the cross... Then I assign a dual set of numbers to each generation... increasing and decreasing in chronological order to get two additional menainings that can be assigned to each character in the bible, and once again my interpretation of numerology is correct.

Then I take the same 360 degree circle and I divide it into 30 pieces to get the 30 days of the year (in months where there are 31 days, you transcribe the 36 hours derived from the 36 generations, onto the 1.5 days that are missing from this 12 hour diagram)

I also mark out what degree each day occurs on the circle, what degree each hour or month occus, and what degree each generation occurs on the circle, then I look for interactions between the 4 levels of government that are bibically correct and sound. For example 33 which means "diligence" in the 36 generations, is found in the same degree where the month of ephraim exists, therefore we can say, that 33 = the "diligence of ephraim"

I believe it is impossible to correctly interpret the entire bible without this diagram but people vary in their level of knowledge, in their level of wisdom, in their level of understanding, in their level of humility and in their level of love and in their level of purity., and many people do not have access to a bible or do not have time to do the type of research that I did.. And it is these differences that characterize the great divisions in the church today.

This is the method that I use to confirm my findings...

No version of the bible is perfect, the main issue is whether or not you understand what it is supposed to mean and how it is supposed to be interpreted when one version varies from another... If you can figure this out, then you konw which parts of which version are correct and which parts of which version are incorrect.

As well I believe there are delibereate contradicitions and deceptions in the bible that are designed to deceive those who want to pervert the will of God for their own selfish reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 8:30 am

No... That was not the date:

IT was May 2nd,

The ticket stuck said, Theatre 19 , 2nd of May... And I translated that number (19+1 / 2 / 5 ) into a "date." (20/2/5) I beleive that every number that you get that doesn't come from dates, or hours or times, is correct...
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 9:03 am

NOW I COULD BE WRONG IN MY THINKING.... BUT ARI HAD MENTIONED THAT IN BOTH TAROT.. AND GEOMANCY.... THAT AS LONG AS THE INTPRETATIONS/MEANINGS ARE SET UP AHEAD OF TIME.. THEN THEY ARE OK TO USE. .. COULD THIS ALSO APPLY TO NUMEROLOGY? EVEN THOUGH 993'S MEANINGS DO NOT MATCH WITH ALL THE OTHER CHRISITAN NUMEROLOGY SITES.. IT DOESNT MEAN THEY ARE WRONG..SHE HAS ASSIGNED MEANING TO EACH NUMBER.. A MEANING SHE DEEMS TRUE AND CORRECT TO HER. ISNT THAT WHAT READERS OF TAROT CAN DO AS WELL?

THIS IS WHERE IM FINDING THE LINES TO GET BLURRY. IF ANYONE HAS TAKEN STATISTICS...YOU KNOW THAT NUMBERS CAN BE MANUEVERED, SKEWED IN SUCH A WAY THAT YOU CAN MAKE THEM SAY.. WHATEVER IT IS YOU WANT THEM TO SAY IF YOU TRY HARD ENOUGH.

993.......... YOU MENTIONED TAKING 2025.. DIVIDING IT BY 25 TO GET 41........ BUT HAVE YOU TRIED ALL THE OTHER FACTORS OF 2025? AND IF SO.. HOW MANY WERE IN CONTRADICTION TO EACH OTHER?.. HOW MANY SUPPORTED EACH OTHER? WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU GET CONTRADICTORY END RESULTS IF YOU DO CHECK THEM AGAINST EACH OTHER? IF YOU DO GET CONTRADICTORY RESPONSES... YOU COULD JUST PICK WHICHEVER MEANING YOU LIKE BEST... AND IF YOU DO THAT.. WHAT IS THE POINT IN DOING ALL THE NUMEROLOGY?

HERE IS A LOOK AT THE SOME OTHER NUMBER COMBINATIONS

2025 / 1 = 2025
2025 / 3 = 675
2025 / 5 = 405
2025 / 9 = 225
2025 / 15 = 135
2025 / 25 = 81 ?............ YOU SAID 41.. HMMMMM
MAYBE I SHOULD STOP THERE.

AGAIN MOST NUMBERS ARE NOT PRIME NUMBERS...... LOTS OF FACTORS TO THEM.
I ALSO HAVE A QUESTION.. I POSED IT IN A PREVIOUS POST.
WHY IS IT IN SOME OCCASIONS YOU DECIDE TO REDUCE THE NUMBERS DOWN TO SINLGE DIGITS..... OR JUST CHANGE THEM ALL TOGETHER?
FOR INSTANCE.. LIKE YOU DID WITH THE 19 AND 1 T0 GET THE 20.... WHICH ALL THIS IS BASED OFF OF
WHY NOT SIMPLY USE THE 19? DID IT FIT YOUR PURPOSE BETTER?
AND IF YOU ARE SO GOOD AT SAYING WHAT IS CORRECT WHEN IT COMES TO DATES AND TIMES........... WHY CANT YOU JUST TAP INTO THAT AND ASSES THE SITUTAION.. WITHOUT THE NUMBERS AND NUMEROLOGY?

AND THIS IS LONG.. I WILL END IT HERE
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 9:09 am

Well I had a mental lapse at the time, and I genuinely thought that it was the 19th of May... So I thought if today is May 19th, then what would tomorrow be? it would be May 20th... I think that even this blur in vision what meant to happen to help me interpret the meaning of the numbers. You can think of it as a numerlogical way of "scrying" if you will... I did not have a calculator on me at the time, and I believed that 41 x 25 = 2025.
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 9:16 am

Could you do me a favor and post ALL 140 deffinitions up. I'm finding your thoughts and interpitations to be very intresting and thought provoking. Thank you.
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 9:21 am

THERE IS A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MENTAL LAPSE

"Well I had a mental lapse at the time, and I genuinely thought that it was the 19th of May... So I thought if today is May 19th, then what would tomorrow be? it would be May 20th..."

AND BELIEVING SOMETHING TO BE TRUE

(19+1 / 2 / 5 ) into a "date." (20/2/5) I beleive that every number that you get that doesn't come from dates, or hours or times, is correct..."
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 9:35 am

Well... I don't want to sound mean... I'm writing a book of biblical theology and I don't want to post anything that is in my book on the internet because if people can access my research online then they won't buy my book.... I can you give the numbers from 70-90 if you are interested.
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 9:40 am

993......... I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT YOUR FIRST POST .. AND THE LAST....
THE FIRST POST YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT YOUR LOVE LIFE.... THE LAST... YOUR BOOK (WHICH IM SURE PART OF THE REASON YOU ARE WRITING IT IS TO MAKE MONEY).......... NOW LOOK AT SOMETHING YOU SAID PERVIOUSLY IN THE POST

As well I believe there are delibereate contradicitions and deceptions in the bible that are designed to deceive those who want to pervert the will of God for their own selfish reasons.

I STRESS THE LAST PART...

"FOR THEIR OWN SELFISH REASONS"

WOULDN'T BOTH REASONS WHY YOU ARE USING THE NUMEROLOGY BE CONSIDERED TO BE SELFISH? SEEMS SO TO ME ANYWAYS. PERHAPS YOU ARE BEING DECIEVED
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 9:54 am

You have a good point and maybe I am. I don't claim to be a saint or a good person. It's just I had a brain tumor removed 7 years ago... and I don't know how to become successful without writing this book I'm writing...

I live with my parents right now, both of them are emotionally abusive and I don't have any friends. I had an anxiety disorder which I am cured from now but people at school think I'm crazy. My dad hides my driver's license when I'm 23 years old and treats me like I have the emotional matuirty of a 4 year old child...

3 of my enemies started a rumour that I wanted to murder a guy by pouring sulferic acid on his face and for 4 years everyone in my university has been avoiding me and gossiping about me. I flunked 3rd year and now they have suspended me from school.

This book that i'm writing it's my only way out... My dad says if I get fired from this job (and my boss said he would fire me after 9 months) he's going to force me collect disability from the government... or kick me out of the house so that I will be homeless...

The guy that I'm interested in is surrounded by all these beatuiful, mature, happy, popular, wealthy, successful, intelligent, educated woman... and I am here trying to get his attention when everyone tells me I have nothing to offer.... So what do I do? WRite a book, make 2 million dollars, lose some weight, and get a new wardrobe.
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I CAN SEE WHERE THIS MIGHT GET SIDETRACKED A BIT.... SO KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS A TOPIC ON NUMEROLOGY.... LETS ADDRESS THE TOPIC AT HAND.. AND NOT SO MUCH THE PERSONAL ISSUES. IF YOU WISH TO DISCUSS THAT ASPECT.. YOU CAN TAKE IT TO PRIVATE MESSAGE.
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 10:15 am

Granted... I'll post the numbers in the numerology section.

70 = start
71 = steadfast love
72 = effort
73 = rhythm / momentum
74 = portray
75 = remember
76 = scenery
77 = violation
78 = waiting
79 = defiance
80 = supremacy
81 = psychology
82 = pouring
83 = adamant
84 = assist
85 = refrain
86 = yesterday
87 = calamtiy
88 = complexity
89 = resolve
90 = afterwards
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Responding to a point that TBT made, I personly see no problem with making money off of her work. Those of us that use magick can, and usually do end up using our talents for that same purpose at least once in our lives. We don't see anything wrong with that. So, how can we blast those of different faiths from doing the same?

1 Corinthians "...The manifestation of the Sprit is given to every man to profit withal. To one is given by the Sprit...the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of sprits[!]..."(12:7-10)

As such, even the bible says that it's ok to make money, or at least a living off of their Deity given talents.

Ok, I'm done with my off topic post. Just thought that there should be someone that could argue the other side of this. And I'm not a Christian and all......
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PostSubject: Re: Numerology Question for you guys   Numerology Question for you guys I_icon_minitimeWed May 06, 2009 10:41 am

Thank, but sofar, you've only givin me 43/140 deffinitions. I would like to try out this system, but I can't do it if it's incompleat......

I realize that this could take time, so I am more then happy to wait. Or you could update them in batches....

Thank you

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YOUR POINT WAS NOT OFF TOPIC DRACOS.... I JUST DONT WANT PEOPLE ADDRESSING HER PERSONAL ISSUES HERE.. THATS ALL

AND I NEVER SAID IT WAS WRONG FOR PEOPLE TO USE THEIR TALENTS TO PROFIT OFF OF..... HOWEVER I AM HOLDING HER TO WHAT SHE SAID SHE BELIEVED TO BE TRUE.. THOSE WORDS WERE GIVEN OF HER OWN VOLITION... HER OWN PERSONAL BELIEFS.
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